Comments on: Second Languages

By: @tweetingaddress

@tweetingaddress — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:02:34 +0000

“The areas of #London where, for each area, the 2nd most popular #language is spoken by +than 5% of residents there… https://t.co/UwSPCmhayK

By: @nikkisheppy

@nikkisheppy — Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:45:01 +0000

Mapping second #languages in #London | Tube #map via @CreativeReview – https://t.co/66Va51u0Oq | Area map: https://t.co/8WN5Yf185J

By: Lydia

Lydia — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:21:41 +0000

Very useful. As people say it does not of course show ethnic mix. In Nigeria 300 languages are spoken and English is the common tongue for many who then move to London.
Harrow where I live is 64% black and ethnic minority shows up a lot of Tamils on the West and Gujarati on the East.
The number of second generation Indians and Pakistanis a good few of which only speak English at home would not show up (25% of the borough is Hindu) never mind the huge Jewish population who usually speak English at home but go to Hebrew class.

Even so it is a useful resource.

By: Tube Tongues | Suprageography

Tube Tongues | Suprageography — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:10:09 +0000

[…] used by Dr Cheshire for Lives on the Line. The metric was first highlighted by an interesting map, Second Languages, created by Neal Hudson. The map Twitter Tongues also gave me the idea of colour coding dots by […]

By: Languages and Shifting Populations | City of Villages

Languages and Shifting Populations | City of Villages — Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:15:32 +0000

[…] 3 musketeers, mac and cheese and Skippy peanut butter! So it was interesting to be reminded of this old article from last year, detailing the main languages spoken other than English across the city. Some are […]

By: Ollie

Ollie — Sat, 01 Feb 2014 21:26:01 +0000

In reply to Paulo. Likely the populations are dispersed over a wider area so falls below the 5% threshold, rather than concentrated in a small area and so likely to show up on this map.

By: Paulo

Paulo — Sat, 01 Feb 2014 11:39:00 +0000

In reply to Steven. Where is Spanish and Italian? I know for a fact that their is a very large Spanish community in West London.

By: Abdulmalik

Abdulmalik — Sun, 05 Jan 2014 22:12:35 +0000

@ Lola, @Alistair; I think this map is generated by the types of answers given by respondents during enumeration. You will find out that Africans/Blacks are actually represented by English, French, Arabic and most specifically, Somali. The map also seem to represent areas where these speakers are concentrated and other Africans that speak other Languages are rather scattered around London unlike Indians, West Indians, or even Somalis.
Theses settlement patterns are factored by the individual migration history of each of these groups int the UK.

By: Steven

Steven — Sat, 14 Dec 2013 07:54:21 +0000

I wonder if the title should read ‘First languages’ or ‘Native Languages’ spoken? In this case English is the second language. Great map though.

By: Alistair

Alistair — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:04:15 +0000

In reply to Ollie.

Good response Ollie. Lola – I don’t know where you are from or how much you know about the linguistic make-up of the countries you mention but there are many languages spoken in Nigeria and Ghana. See this as an example: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Nigeria_Benin_Cameroon_languages.png

Somali is represented on the map and Arabic is also spoken in Somalia. If you look around west london you will see a lot of both.

By: Ollie

Ollie — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:28:26 +0000

In reply to Lola.

Hi Lola – the map, which was not produced by us, is a map of languages spoken, not of ethnicities or countries of origin. A similar map of the latter would likely reveal some of the groups you mention. The underlying data is based on the 2011 Census aggregate results, which include imputed results for missing returns, so is likely an accurate snapshot as you can get.

One other thing to note is that it’s possible that there are some languages, spoken by more than 5% of people in each area, which don’t appear on the map – because the result is “hidden” by another language in the same area.

By: Lola

Lola — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:56:52 +0000

There is a lack of African/black presence on this map. What about the Nigerians, Somalians,Ghanians are you trying to erase them.? This map is not well done and seems UNFAIR. There are people who don’t appear to exist on your map. Can you please adjust it.